Re: Bleeding and Debugging Hynautic Steering System Scrod is right, you need to open both bleeder valves and then fill & presurize the tank. 1 0 obj One of our members writes: "We have a simple hydraulic system: pump and 4 double-acting cylinders. That means create air bubbles that move through the system. Web seastar steering (front mount pivot cylinder) 48: Web first outboard hydraulic steering system from seastar solutions; Mechanical Steering Sh8050 Helm, Cable & Kit Length 'Y' (Ft) (M) Seastar Part No No 7 2.13 Ssc13107 Txssc13107. The most ubiquitous hydraulic steering system for outboard-powered boats is made by SeaStar Solutions (previously known as Teleflex). FOR SALE! Victoria HELP!!! South Carolina http://www.boatsteer.com/assets/Hynauti ctions.pdf. cracking lines to bleed upper station 4 or 5 times. G2 quick connect fittings are modified for better clearance in confined spaces, an absolute must for Yamaha 4.2L and 3.3L F200 to F300 applications. It wasn't too bad really. What brand system? Have a look at my video and determine if this is a task you feel comfortable tackling. 1e66}6T^ ja~Mb,.[)e;)UTzbm1]4:^P0ZP/R,M9"PEsQgty?_OO[j&' "&i;Hl6J*9r8rTh.^ux!`|ZYDY=qDiP|ZZ/eZ"4>n British Columbia 0000041608 00000 n Maybe, it may just end up pushing oil out of the other helm, but in theory, Im not sure in practice, but in theory the check valves should keep the oil where it needs to be, but I would be incredibly careful just in case those check valves dont hold and you end up losing steering while under way. Lower station works fine. Still having trouble turning the wheel? This year, many gardeners are looking for new varieties of tomatoes to try out in their gardens. Michigan Filling and bleeding a hydraulic steering system; Maintenance of LS outboard helm pumps. Remove the bolt (s) that attach the steering cylinder to your engine, outdrive, or rudder and attempt to turn your engine, outdrive, or rudder by hand. Most of the oil between the directional control valve and cylinders 'shuttles' back and forth in the lines without returning to tank. by Carl Jun 17th, '21, 06:15, Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Holding the cylinder rod (to prevent it from moving back into the cylinder) turn the steering wheel counter-clockwise until a steady stream of air free oil comes out of the bleeder. You may want to look at another steering system like a Seastar or dual cable. I had a miserable time bleeding the system this helm came from, I had to bleed each helm (there was 2 on this boat), as well as the cylinder and all the lines, it took several attempts going through the bleeding instructions before it would cooperate. 0000041273 00000 n Turn the steering wheel to full lock in one direction, and then apply additional force to pressurize the system. Try loosening the bleeds and getting some fluid through the helm. Thanks so much! Disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Those screws are 'staked' and not supposed to be removed just backed out some for bleeding. the round thing should stay put and the nut with attached stud back out a few turns. New Hampshire Ray. Is there no way of purging air at that station after I replace seals as per your video since it is at the highest point, without having to bleed the entire system? Locate and loosen the two screws on the relief valve, then remove the hex plug on top of the reservoir and fill it with oil. A few years ago someone was kind enough to send me a diagram and instructions on how to bleed the old hynautics system. Start Gardening This Summer and Reap the Rewards | Successful Harvesting for Beginners, Gardening is a rewarding experience that brings with it many benefits, from improved physical and mental health to the joy of harvesting fresh produce. Alberta the bleeding is done at the 2 fittings on the steering ram,,not on the bottom of the reservoir,,,there may be a clear polly hose that goes between 2 fittings on the ram,,it's about a foot long,,,just pull the hose off one side at a time and put the end in a cup,,have someone turn the wheel constantly in one direction untill pressure builds up and Hold the cylinder so bleeding will be performed on the highest end of the cylinder. Kentucky SeaStar Hydraulic Steering Fluid can be used in Hynautic, BayStar and BayStar Plus steering systems. `]Lw4R%!*C*S&/(|;x3l?cJ=q^" 66]e_+gT~x If you are turning in the right direction to bleed the cylinder shouldn't move. The H-21 helm is a heavy-duty three-line helm used in Hynautic big boat systems. For 3 line systems, helm, reservoir and cylinder or cylinders: For 3 line systems with a seperate releif/purge valve. After leaving my slip with and putting both clutches in forward I realized I didn't have any steering at the bridge helm but I had it in the lower helm. Those screws are 'staked' and not supposed to be removed just backed out some for bleeding. It will go to left when the bleeder valves on the reservoir are closed but free wheels to the right? If you do not have a pressurized reservior (with the air connection) it becomes a lot more difficult. BTW, I recommend using Aircraft Hydraulic fluid. or does it bind up turning to the left? 0000019140 00000 n Bled the system. You'll need to do this back and forth drill multiple times, so having a helper at the helm is a real time saver. Arizona Your email address will not be published. Remove thehex plug from topofreservoir and fill with oil towithin 1/2" and replace the hex plug. Never had an issue. Mar 16, 2016 #8 tunaorlater Opening the charging valve bypasses the cylinder so that when you turn the steering wheel oil is cirulated in a loop through the reservoir. Nevada So generally you wont need much fluid, as it will circulate through the purge valves that you open, so there shouldnt be fluid spraying anywhere or leaking, when I did this helm and bled I used somewhere around a quart or less of fluid. how do you identify the model of the hynautic unit we have? Manitoba Exactly. If the cylinder is not equipped with bleeders, crack open the fitting connections. Has anyone else had this issue? Quebec Illinois . <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/Properties<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[ 0 0 612 792]/Type/Page>> Web seastar hydraulic steering system single engine application guide. Maintenance of pump 20 HB; Maintenance of pumps 26/40/50 HB; Maintenance of pumps 30/35 HB; Maintenance of pumps 29/35 CT HB; Filling and bleeding LS hydraulic steering system with Speedy Purge; Assembly and disassembly of cylinders fitted with clips North Carolina Application Bleed Kit - For Seastar hydraulic steering systems. 0000030358 00000 n % Utah 0000041588 00000 n I4 ?q{mU|:$;'m$nk\Pq)GA)o_Hkg1i03(a/(J\8dKo?n"RR3fsM%Zoa"!m1*~tEST0 ,=Z|qfrJ Disconnect the steering cylinder from your engine, outdrive, or rudder and try to turn them by hand. Nico has put together an impressive list of tomato varieties for 2021. H-20 series fluid leak. Gardening is a great way to spend time outdoors and get in touch with nature. Your email address will not be published. You can go to the link on the left of this page if you need to download it. Teleflex Capilano works similarly using a device called a Uniflow valve. Country: United States. Next, turn to the lock in the opposite direction and repeat the process. Vermont Mississippi Added more pressure to the reservoir abt 50 lbs keep oil up around 3/4. Allow the air to escape until oil appears and then close. <>>> For 2 line systems, helm and cylinder only, no seperate reservoir, H-60, H-80, H-100 series: Click Here, The following file showing the reservoirs and relief valve are for your information only. you might need to crack some lines leading to the upper station, but the air should be forced up to the highest spot with out doing anything other that loosening the fill cap at the upper station. Queensland wD:Vz_ HjdJpeHC}5iG@ Outboard Specialty Tools Bubble Purge G2 Hydraulic Steering Bleed and Purge Kit for Seastar OST-PBB.001. New Jersey Fill & Pressurize The System To bleed Hynautic steering, use a light viscosity hydraulic oil that meets the aircraft hydraulic fluid spec Mil-H-5606. It can work without the bleeder-Tee's, too. What a quart of Teleflex and Hynautic fluid costs, you can purchase almost 3 quarts of the Aircraft Fluid. How to Bleed a Hynautic steering system. If the gauge only shows a couple of psi, get a bicycle pump and pump it up a little and your problem will be solved. Location: Massachusettes. by EarleyBird Feb 6th, '21, 08:41, Post 0000019467 00000 n 2 0 obj Whether you are using plastic or fabric containers, Earthboxes, or even old buttercream buckets, there are a few important things to consider before planting. Tasmania _____ Jay Leonard . Bleeding and debugging hynautic steering system. (by the way, i design hydraulic systems for a living; have for the last 40 years). Nova Scotia by Chanse Jun 11th, '21, 22:06, Post by Chanse Feb 6th, '21, 11:09, Post Re: Bleeding hynautic steering system There two 1/2' studs (nuts) on the adapter manifold near the rear cylinder. There is likely a little entrapped air, it took me forever to get this system bled, I thought I was done, and I had to re do both helms several more times because of the fluid I lost while rebuilding the helm. . I have manual at work, I'll scan and post tomorrow. Indiana Hynautic H26S that was leaking oil on my 1976 B26 now rebuilt and reinstalled on upper station. It sounds arduous but if bleeding entire system is the only way, how much hydraulic fluid should I have on hand to bleed and fill? Correct any leaks that are found. Great video. Hynautic will rebuild or replace, at its op- tion, all products of its 66. Done. How does the air get expeled from the system at the upper helm? You have to turn the wheel both ways multiple turns to get the air bubbles worked up to the highest pump fitting. Im not leaking H50, but I have another problem. Teleflex, Hynautic (which one? Kit includes hose with screw cap which fits SeaStar or equivalent oil bottles. 0000038071 00000 n When I helped my friend with his, I used the bleeders on the steering cylinder. Myself and my Mechanic friend are at a loss as to what is going on. Ron O'Blenis B 38 175 Hinos 1989 Completed Great Loop Missouri Crack open the fitting and let the air out until the fluid comes out. Ontario FOR SEASTAR FRONT Mount Hydraulic Steering Cylinder Seal Kit+ Bleed Kit + Puller - $113.13. Tomatoes are a great choice for beginners as they're easy to care for and c, 2021 Tomato Varieties to Try in Your Garden this Year | Varieties for Storage & Other Tomatoes Available, Tomatoes are a popular and versatile vegetable that can be used in a variety of dishes. is at the lowest point but even if it does the air will tend to find its way up where you can use your charging valve bleeding procedure to remove it. South Australia Typical example of a 3 line steering system: Many of our pages require Adobe Reader be installed on your machine. I could actually hear the air hiss as it exited the relief valve when I turned the wheel. Steering cylinders will be bled one at a time on multi-engine boats. Hi Jarod, My upper helm H 50 is leaking at the shaft seal. If I recall, the manufacturer doesn't recommend that system for speeds in excess of 55 mph. I developed a squeak from the helm unit so decided to pull apart, clean and reinstall, all seemed to go back together fine. I'll take a chance on Blue Heron's advice. Pennsylvania 0000036345 00000 n Maryland You need to keep turning the wheel when it is against the stop to get the air burped out of the bypass valves. I'm not convinced that is exactly true. .Kv?il6 ;U3__;?w/|+W2y$|. If they move easily, turn the wheel and see if its still tough to steer. There are only two reservoirs still available if you need to replace yours. TeleflexMorse is the world's largest manufacturer of. 2 0 obj Web Hynautic, Teleflex, And All Other Brands Of Hydraulic Steering Sold And Repaired. Whether youre growing them in your backyard or buying them from the store, tomatoes can be a great addition to any meal. <>stream You have a leak around the helm shaft behind the steering wheel: Your helm needs to be serviced and re-sealed. If your steering is slow or 'mushy': You probably have air in the system. You should be able to find a model number on the back of the helm, Always starts with an H if it is a Hynautic unit, after Teleflex bought them out it may have changed. Delaware Top. 2. A small amount of air will be trapped at the high point in each sender head. Mulching and Watering Posted on 23 August 2016 by Brendan Casey. Hynautic steering bleeding instruction. It is the same stuff, just dyed. This article provides an overview of hydraulic steering systems for outboard, I/O and inboard powered boats. by Tony Meola Feb 7th, '21, 21:22, Post Helms for the company's BayStar (helm model HH4314-3), SeaStar (helm model HH5271-3) or SeaStar Pro (helm model HH5770-3) are among the most common and durable on the market today. Bleeding Hydraulic steering Getting Started @2b?%-N @>JJlB,hK4ha)CP,78)zz;h3_#Z_Jp`oByA}0>iyf}zp57";_H*I2F nt He just had to send that cylinder to be rebuilt. Yes, I do have the pressure tank. These steering systems can be tricky to repair and bleed, some have gone so far to say that it cant be done without extensive training and experience. 2: FUNCTION: Seastar Bottle to Helm Tube faciltates filling or bleeding SeaStar, BayStar or Hynautic steering systems. Sorry it took so long to get back as i was not near a computer. Yes, Chanse, the only difference being that with Ouzo you don't seem to bother with that stiffness, to be honest nothing seems to bother you after a certain quantity! I use only SeaStar systems 2 pistons for twin 300, 1 x twin 150, 1 x for single 150 and 1 piston for single 300 and they work fine. They back out some to allow fluid to pass. A meeting place for Bayliner Owners. 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